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4 scary words: Trump, Musk, Thiel, Murdoch

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It won't be Trump - they'll remove him with 25 and install Vance.

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I believe Trump doesn't belong in the WhiteHouse because he doesn't care about the country, and only what he can do for himself. Everything he will do if president will be to line his pockets, or try to cement himself as King. Musk on the other hand is very conflicted. He is dealing with psychological forces that overwhelm his reason. Just because he has unimaginable wealth doesn't mean we should be forced to live in his dream world. If he was more reasonable, he would try and convince us about his vision of the future, not force it on us. Between the two of them, they make me afraid for the future. God help us if Trump is elected.

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And what do you watch to come to this conclusion?

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It's not a matter of watching, it's a matter of what history tells us about the tyrannical character. "What do you watch?" is to frame it erroneously. All one need do is listen to his words. Better to frame it, "What do you READ to come to this conclusion". Here's a basic list: Sallust, Machiavelli, Tacitus, Plato, Cicero, Thucydides, Shakespeare, Aristotle, William Shirer, Peter Heather, Hannah Arendt, the collected works of Lincoln and Jefferson, Montaigne, Ian Kershaw, Bruce Catton . . . for a start.

Apart from that, on a purely human standpoint Trump is clearly mentally troubled, a vulgarian, a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a rapist, and given his relationship with Putin a traitor.

I really pity people above a certain age who have come to the conclusion that this is acceptable - that they are so lacking in compassion, have such mean little lives, and lives of such emotional and intellectual poverty that they would visit this on others - a monster that is a dragon but facies himself a St. George, a Louis Quatorze pretender who is in fact a king of shreds and patches.

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Musks estranged daughter is trans and his ex-wife had a relationship with a trans woman. Now he needs everyone to hate them, I don't think it's more complicated than that.

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Maybe just maybe he needs to lose his government contracts.

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Some wobbly thinking here. I don't want to think sensationally. Colonizing Mars is fantasy, instead of population control and environmental stewardship on earth.

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The warnings detailed expanded on my own view of the dangers of Musk and Musk like people. Feels like when nations have enough nukes to destroy the world, need to add more? There is a cult of worshippers for Musk, likely not the same dynamics as the Trump cult, but hey, room for a wide variety of cults, cults synergize not compete. It takes little effort to conclude Musk is if not all the warnings Brian lists, but for me, adding five more is just adding to the already obvious - but damn good reading anyhow. What I want is to have a Musk top dog worshipper, even him, to explain why each point is BS, versus basking in the perceived hatred to justify and solidify their cult worship. My conclusion is, Trump, Musk, Miller, Vance - they take pride in being criticized, and still more pride in not having to respond because they know their cults do not want to be informed or shown the truth, they each want ownership, and the right to be corrupt with no fear of accountability. If that is wrong, let's look later for a point-by-point rebuttal versus responses that do not address any points Brian makes, take Brian down if he has TDS or MDS.

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One thing that always surprises me slightly is how dumb Musk's tweets are. He has the political insight of a foot soldier in the Q-anon orc army, tweeting "This is true" and "You are correct" to idiocy.

I don't understand why these right-wing billionaires think it's smart to destroy the world that afforded them their fortunes. As for colonizing Mars...what's the point? What's to colonize? It has no oxygen and no water. It has no magnetosphere to shield humans from "cosmic rays."

You colonize a place (if you must) to take advantage of its resources. If you have to schlep all your own resources over there to make it habitable, so you can reap nothing, why bother?

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‘Gendered hobbies.’ Lmao.

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So painful to read… the TDS and MDS is so strong in you.

You think you are raging against the machine, but you rage against common sense.

And the Christian church is a good thing to be a part of.

Read de Tocqueville

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TDS, yawn. Can't you come up with a new content-free non-retort?

"Common sense"? Whatever are you talking about? If you can find any common sense in the vicinity of Trump or Musk, feel free to share. Meanwhile, you have no response to the points raised in the article. Instead, naming dropping an author you saw mentioned on NR. Pathetic.

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I wouldn’t expect you to understand… you are to full of hate.

Who did I name drop?

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Please tell me you are a (badly programmed) AI. Whatever would make you think I didn't understand something you said? Whatever makes you speculate about my hate level? Do you always just spout random sentences?

"Who did I name drop?" - and you can't even recall what you just wrote? Good grief, time for a major upgrade!

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Um . . . "too". But apart from your grammatical infelicity, let's talk about Jesus and Christianity.

Jesus and his family were political refugees – that is the Christmas story; the former president rejects refugees. Jesus stood for helping the stranger; the former president rejects them. Jesus was about challenging the power structure; the GOP nominee lusts after power like a Caesar. Jesus stood for the disenfranchised and deviant; Trump hates them. Jesus told his followers to put down their swords; Trump says pick up your guns ("stand back and stand by"). Jesus stood for helping the poor and disabled; the GOP is about mocking and making life even more difficult for them. Jesus called on us to sacrifice and reject the things of this world; Trump is all about consumption. Jesus fed the hungry; Trump would starve them. The former president covets the kingdoms of the earth; Jesus, tempted by Satan, rejected earthly power. Trump and his party are all about conformity; Jesus, who consorted with tax-collectors and prostitutes, is all about the disenfranchised and the deviant. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees as hungry for gain and as hypocrites; Trump embodies the same hypocrisy and selling of religion. Trump and his party persecute the sexually different; his apostles welcomed them into the fold, as in the case of Philip and the eunuch.

Is the former GOP president the Anti-Christ? Ridiculous. But he and is party are as anti-Christian as anything that can be imagined.

Because if Caesar is right, then Jesus is wrong. If guns are right, then Jesus is wrong. If supporting power and laying the weak by the heal is right, then Satan and Trump are right, and Jesus is wrong. I have no idea what scripture the GOP reads. I’ve had the good fortune to pour over it in Greek and publish books on Jesus’ radicalism. Jesus was a wildly radical Jewish heretic. The GOP? Intellectually and morally sloven and shabby.

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He never said the Christian church wasn’t a good thing to be a part of.

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It was a jab…

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“Musk has legions of admirers and sycophants.”

But… he has no friends!!!

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Nothing about this agenda is amorphous. It’s plain old white supremacy. You’ve made it more complicated than it actually is.

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"Slobber Baron" <---- <3 <3 <3

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excellent article!!

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It's possible to construct a Palo Alto Plutocrat ideology that ties together the atomistic individualism, hostility to public policies combating climate pollution and social welfare, boundless faith in AI, and extra-terran colonization. This revival of social Darwinism is deeply pessimistic and contemptuous of all but the ultra-elite. It looks forward to the mass die-off of all but a few million humans whose productive labor will be replaced by non-unionized ai-enabled robots. Government will wither away to the minimum needed to enforce property rights. This plutocrat's utopia has been the stuff of sci-fi but might just be our future.

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My basic instincts tell me he see’s himself as a species above mankind- and with that entitlement to run the world- & the in current environment that means using Trump as his puppet or some may say useful idiot. In other words a god-like creature. He is absurdly corrupted by his smashing business sucess. And stupid enough to believe he’s invincible and therefore entitled.

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